Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Will History 'Deal Kindly' With Greenspans Bubble?

The FOMC interest rate decision is out. "The Federal Reserve nudged a key interest rate up to the highest level in nearly five years on Tuesday as Alan Greenspan brought his long tenure as Fed chairman to a close." "By holding interest rates down for so long after the stock market bubble burst in the late 1990s, Greenspan pumped up a housing bubble that allowed consumers to borrow against capital gains on their homes, spending more than they earned. Indeed, strong consumer spending has kept the U.S. economy rolling along when other nations continue to languish, but at the cost of a negative personal saving rate, a growing load of household debt and a mounting deficit." "In the unending search for increased profits, FF (Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae) undertook some financial innovation. They began bundling groups of mortgages together as mortgage-backed securities (MBS) on which they guaranteed, in case of default, to pay interest and principal 'fully and in a timely fashion.' And finally, to squeeze out even more profits, FF began taking 50% of their MBS holdings and pooling them once again into derivative instruments called Real Estate Mortgage Investment Conduits, i.e.'restructured MBS' or into what are called Collateralized Mortgage Obligations for which they are paid a fee." "These instruments are highly specialized derivatives, i.e. bets on the direction of future rates of interest. FF's profits went up even more but the risks associated with these actions became excessive!! Thus, what started out as a simple home mortgage, has been transmogrified in to something one would expect to find at a Las Vegas gambling casino. Yet the housing bubble now depends on precisely these instruments as sources of funds." "Despite being delinquent on filing its annual financial statement with the SEC for almost a year, government-chartered mortgage backer Fannie Mae reported that it will not be delisted from the NYSE, at least, not yet. Fannie and Freddie are too big to fail; the repercussions on the housing market would be severe, perhaps taking down a number of financial institutions as well. That might very well create a spiral effect on the rest of the economy. Homeowners have tapped the equity in their homes to spur sales and fuel growth. If Fannie or Freddie go under, they might plunge the overall economy into a recession, or worse." "Would that lead to a massive taxpayer-financed bailout of Fannie and Freddie, like the S&L industry received in the 1980s? Perhaps not; the mortgages are not backed by the federal government, but Fannie and Freddie's congressional charters would suggest they are entitled to at least some protection. And the regulators will do all that's in their power to prevent such a collapse." "Alabama Republican Sen. Richard Shelby on Tuesday reiterated his concerns that those portfolios pose a risk, and said the investments do not help the companies fulfill their mission of supporting homeownership. 'The mission of the GSEs is important and that's why we created them,' he said. 'The risk is in the portfolio. It has nothing to do with providing money for housing.'" "Alan Greenspan, in comments made at a meeting of the Fed in Jackson Hole, Wyo., Greenspan had some choice words for investors. 'This vast increase in the market value of asset claims [read: real estate] is in part the indirect result of investors accepting lower compensation for risk. Such an increase in market value is too often viewed by market participants as structural and permanent..But what they perceive as newly abundant liquidity can readily disappear. Any onset of increased investor caution elevates risk premiums and, as a consequence, lowers asset values and promotes the liquidation of the debt that supported higher asset prices. This is the reason that history has not dealt kindly with the aftermath of protracted periods of low-risk premiums."

27 comments:

  1. "But what they perceive as newly abundant liquidity can readily disappear."

    "...history has not dealt kindly with the aftermath of protracted periods of low-risk premiums."


    Ahhh... my two all-time favorite Greespin quotes.

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  2. Today, the Fed made it just that much costlier to borrow. Given the last few months of stagnate home prices, I suggest the Fed's have today laid the straw that breaks the housing market's back.

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  3. "Although recent economic data have been uneven, the expansion in economic activity appears solid." (Today's FOMC Release)

    The expansion of economic activity is definitely NOT solid.

    1) Trade Deficit
    2) Federal Debt
    3) Negative Personal Savings Rate
    4) Housing Bubble
    5) Credit Bubble

    David
    Bubble Meter Blog

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  4. A. Greenspan said 'This vast increase in the market value of asset claims is in part the indirect result of investors accepting lower compensation for risk.'

    Is he referring indirectly to the foreign buyers of treasuries?

    Not only can labor be outsourced, but so too can risk be.

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  5. I like the idea of having a thread devoted to Greenspan this weekend.

    I am in the midst to putting back up the humor resources on beartopia, but I will include this:

    Greenspan

    These cartoons are at least a few years old.

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  6. Remember, mortgage rates are based on the 10-year note, not the fed funds rate. Correct?

    Besides, I think Greenspan would have been damned no matter what he did. It is very easy for us all to judge his every move and criticize him for what he did or didn't do. I guarantee you that had he not lowered rates after the internet bubble and 911, people would have been complaining.

    I know I wouldn't want that job.

    JLP

    AllThingsFinancial

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  7. I find it amazing that the Fannie Mae scandal is still not front page news in the American media. Nothing else threatens the banking system as much as the potential downfall of this single financial behemoth. The company is over 12 months late reporting earnings (a very clear sign of distress) and would, under normal circumstances, face delisting. But because of its size and political connections, Fannie Mae is allowed to operate "business as usual".

    Let's be clear -- this is a financial organization. Clear reporting is at the crux of its entire operation. If a financial institution can't report the state of its finances -- what exactly is it?

    The potential meltdown of Fannie Mae still threatens to make the S&L crisis look like a walk in the park, and still we have this "sweep it under the rug", "everything's gonna be fine" attitude which is strangely echoed by the media.

    Fannie Mae is a *year* late with their reporting. Everything is most definitely *not* okay.

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  8. What bothers me about Mr. Bubble is that he said nothing to cool the bubble until very recently when it was obviously out of control on the coasts several years ago. He deserves all of the scorn in the world and more for not talking housing down starting in 2003. A few words from him into the correct ears would have had mortgage lenders tightening standards on interest only and other sub-prime paper. Now it is way too late to avoid carnage everywhere.

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  9. chickenlittle,

    The Asians hold around 6% of the outstanding MBS's, I think. While their treasury purchases hold down long term rates and mortgages, it is the US taxpayer that stands behind those treasuries. And in some peoples view, the FF MBS's too.

    sohonyc,

    Good points. Just because they don't/can't file doesn't remove the underlying problems. Japan allowed it's corporations to engage in accounting tricks after their twin bubbles popped, and that's the reason they remain stagnant to this day, IMO. Malinvestments have to be purged and delaying the matter doesn't cure anything.

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  10. JLP said...
    Remember, mortgage rates are based on the 10-year note, not the fed funds rate. Correct?


    The 10-year note drives 30 year fixed rate mortgages. A one-year ARM hovers just over the Fed Funds Rate. The housing market is being driven by ARM's - not long-term mortages or, by extension, the 10-year note.

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  11. For the sake of argument, lets say your net worth is zero and you're a bear. There are two possible outcomes; deflation which makes having cash a good thing and hyperinflation, which makes having cash bad and gold good.

    Am I correct that it would make sense, if hyperinflation was coming, to buy gold using debt because the debt would become worthless and the gold would become the new currency. And if deflation or stagflation were coming it wouldn't really matter what zero-net-worth guy did other than to short Gold, which is equally crazy.

    In other words, is there any way to hedge against a re/depression regardless of the destiny of the dollar assuming things are about to get ugly?

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  12. "But what they perceive as newly abundant liquidity can readily disappear."

    Newly liberated equity can also realily disappear.

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  13. this is VERY comforting.

    And in This Corner, Fed Choice Is Blip on Some Senators' Radar
    By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
    Published: January 31, 2006

    Wall Street may be intensely interested in just about every word ever uttered by Mr. Bernanke, the former Princeton economist and chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers who is President Bush's choice to succeed Alan Greenspan.

    But in Washington, he is barely on some people's radar screens. Indeed, here is what Senator George Allen of Virginia, who is considering a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, said when asked his opinion of the Bernanke nomination.

    "For what?"

    Told that Mr. Bernanke was up for the Fed chairman's job, Mr. Allen hedged a little, said he had not been focused on it, and wondered aloud when the hearings would be. Told that the Senate Banking Committee hearings had concluded in November, the senator responded: "You mean I missed them all? I paid no attention to them."

    and mccain?

    He was not the only one. Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, regarded by some as a front-runner in 2008, also had no idea that the Bernanke hearings had come and gone.

    we're all DOOMED!

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  14. I believe we could go to gold w/o serious disaster. some places may accept NOTHING but GOLD. think about it, when you go somewhere and they don't take cash, a check or a credit card- hyperinflation has not taken place. they just aren't accepted as methods of payment. if you cash isn't accepted, that's not really hyperinflation. if CC aren't accepted, it doesn't mean that CCs are worthless. they flat-out just aren't accepted as a method of payment there.

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  15. The Asians hold around 6% of the outstanding MBS's

    Ben,

    Can you post any sources for this stat? Reliable MBS ownership stats are notoriously hard to find (which is hardly surprising).

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  16. HARM,
    The last time I saw it was this past summer on the RE Digest site, by the WSJ. We do know what the Asian central banks hold; it's in the weekly Treasury Dept. numbers. That we don't know who holds the majority makes me think it's the hedge funds.

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  17. Ben,

    Thanks. This Forbes article from December supports your theory:

    http://www.forbes.com/home/services/2005/12/06/interest-only-mortgages-cx_lm_1207mortgage.html

    "A huge quantity of mortgage paper is packaged and sold to investors every year, a lot of it by the two federal entities set up for this very purpose: Fannie Mae (nyse: FNM - news - people ) and Freddie Mac (nyse: FRE - news - people ). In 2004, some 18% of the $1.8 trillion mortgages securitized were interest-only mortgages, according to Bear Stearns, and that likely increased dramatically this year. Hedge funds and other institutions hungry for higher-yielding investments have been snapping up the lower-rated pieces of securitized mortgages.

    That doesn't mean the risks are completely covered. "Apparently, there is not sufficient data for any institutions to know how much they have," said Charles McMillon, the president and chief economist at MBG Information Services, an economic analysis group in Washington, D.C. "The percentage of interest-only loans as a share of all loans has really exploded, but we don't know what the concentrations are in each institution. We only know enough to be worried.""

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  18. My company's 401K plan is very limited (no select sector funds, no commodities, etc). I spoke with Fidelty's advisor representative (I even suggested a bear fund), and his excuse was to steer people into traditional choosings. You have your plain large cap, medium cap, small caps, safe value, and [luckily] international fund. So my 401K is 100% international since I can't pick anything else that will be favorable. I only have this setup because of company matching.

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  19. Japan took that path (from 1990 forward), and ended up with 14 years of deflation. They cut rates too slowly (they took twice as long as Greenspan) and then raised taxes in 1995. Only recently have they flooded their financial markets with liquidity, and it's worked, just as it has every other time it's been tried.

    mr d,

    I agree that it's easier to criticize than to lead (and hindsight is always 20-20). Point taken. Even so, to blame a tight money policy with causing Japan's long slow asset deflation period would be a mistake.

    Temporarily tight credit (until 1995?) didn't give rise to Japan's RE/stock bubble in the first place --reckless speculation and collective euphoria did. If anything, loose credit since the mid-90s may have even prolonged the inevitable correction (along with Japanese banks unwillingness to purge bad loans from their books).

    The only thing that re-injecting easy credit/rapidly expanding the money supply in any economy will do is blow new bubbles and/or fuel inflation. Imbalances always correct. The only thing that central bank interest rate targeting (central planning) ends up doing is prolonging the misery.

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  20. Thanks everybody for the great advice. I found an article which goes into some detail about the problems with Fan/Fred from a Canadian perspective:
    Our Worst Nightmare: The Puncture of the Current U.S. Housing Bubble

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  21. "Gold bugs help me. With the very limited amount of gold, how could gold be a physical money. Wouldn't there be fraud with gold plated coins or filled coins."

    The quantity is irrelevant. You use warehouse receipts which are like cash but they're backed by Gold instead of nothing in the case of dollars.

    Let's say you're a successful business owner living in a community where honey has emerged as a commodity money. Through hard work and shrewd business deals, you have amassed a small fortune in money...50 pounds of honey!

    You don't want to worry about thieves breaking into your house and stealing your honey, so you take your honey to a warehouse for safekeeping. The warehouse charges you a small annual fee for their services.

    The warehouse gives you a receipt for the honey you have deposited with them. This receipt has the words, "Will pay to the bearer on demand 50 pounds of honey".

    At this point, your 50 pounds of honey have been completely removed from circulation, under lock and key in a warehouse. In place of the honey, you now have a paper receipt, which you can present to the warehouse at any time for your honey.

    The warehoue has been in business for quite some time. People know from experience that the items they deposit at the warehouse will still be there months or years down the road when they need them again. The warehouse has a reputation of trustworthiness in the community.

    The next day, you happen to see a television set worth 50 pounds of honey that you'd like to buy. You start to head down to the warehouse to redeem your honey, but then stop, struck with a sudden thought.

    Perhaps the television owner would be willing to accept the warehouse receipt as payment for the television. The television owner could then take the receipt to the warehouse at their leisure and redeem the receipt for the 50 pounds of honey.

    The television owner agrees! You pay the former owner of the television your 50 pounds of honey paper receipt, and they give you the television.

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  22. "Private warehouses make me feel insecure fearing fraud, theft, and embezzlement.

    That's funny, politicians with free reign over a cash printing press and fractional reserve banking make me feel insecure fearing fraud, theft, and embezzlement.

    Here is a photo of a woman burning "exchangable government currency" because it's not worth its weight in firewood. But to each his own.

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  23. I wonder what happened to ChromaticDispersion?
    He hasn't updated his blog since before Thnaksgiving.
    http://bankdersysrisk.blogspot.com/

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  24. The nickname "wildcat" referred to banks in mountainous and other remote regions that were said to be more accessible to wildcats than customers, making it difficult for people to redeem these notes.

    Uhhhm, as far as I can tell these banks existed pre-internet. I can wire transfer money out of my account in a fraction of a second if I think it's going to fail. A truly free banking system is only possible now that electronic money transfers are available.

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  25. Heck, guys, if you use pre-1985 economic measures then we've been in a recession for months already. However, Uncle Sam keeps spouting happy-talk and the sheeple buy it, hook, line & sinker. Wall Street parrots the party line, too, since their livelihood depends on it.

    Considering that the sh*t has yet to hit the fan, a depression isn't that much of a stretch.

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  26. Swaaahaaa said: "By keeping cash in bank we are implicitly supporting housing bubble. the banks keep some part of it as reserve (typically 10%) and can lend the remaining which recently has been used to buy overvalued houses. Unless people move cash out of banking to buy gold or securities etc. they are supporting housing bubble."

    I dont know if holding money in a bank directly means supporting the housing bubble, my main concern is the bank being too leveraged on RE loans and goes belly up.

    A friend of mine just refinanced into a fixed rate with Wells fargo, she told me they hold all their RE loans. My question is what will happen to this bank and others that hold RE loans? will they go Bankrupt? It's a scary thought to me.

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