Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
Wednesday, February 01, 2006
'Sellers Beginning To Get Real' In The Hamptons
For news about the Hampton's housing bubble, Dan's Papers is all we can get. "Here on the East End, real estate has continued to be the hot topic of conversation. The threat of the market shifting causes as much a stir as multi-million dollar sales do. It has seemed for a long time that the sky was the limit. The East End (became) saturated with brokerages and agents. When the conglomerates moved in, more buyers with more money were attracted."
"However, the market has begun to level off somewhat and buyers seem to be watching for what they believe to be the end of the ever-expanding real estate bubble."
"Even anxious buyers I have talked to feel they may be wise to wait just a bit longer for the prices to fall lower. Area realtors seem to all agree that the market is flattening, but that it will remain strong and values will hold. They feel that drastic reductions will not occur anytime soon."
"I hear people talking about prices dropping all around, but where? If you look at what is out there, there really are no drastic reductions. Although the listings are building up, the bottom certainly is not falling out. Prices are fairly similar, for the same size home and property with whatever amenities it may offer, to what they were saying back in the spring of last year."
"The difference possibly is that the bidding frenzies have died down and overpricing has for the most part come to a halt. Sellers are beginning to get real."
"The White House at the pond in East Hampton is holding steady at its $50 million mark. It has been on the market for almost a year now. The Church Estate in Montauk temporarily dropped its price a few months ago to $45 million and now is back up to its original $50 million price tag. It has been for sale for years. The mammoth Three Ponds Farm, with its jaw-dropping asking price of $70 million, is still available as well."
Thanks to the reader who sent this in.
ReplyDelete'Prices are fairly similar, for the same size home and property with whatever amenities it may offer, to what they were saying back in the spring of last year.'
That's probably as close to an admission of falling prices as we'll get.
-Asking- price is not -sales- price. Cripes, I can see a realtor putting an outhouse on the market for eleventy bazillion simolians just so the data refect that the average asking price is rising.
ReplyDeleteThis is the "Silent Spring." Sellers in denial, buyers in control. No sales until the backs of the sellers are broken.
Next step; "that was then, this is now." Realtors are going to re-contact those of us who made lowball offers recently. "Good news! I've talked to the buyers and although it was a lot of work I convinced them to lower their price 3%! I've got the paperwork right here, I can be over in 20 minutes." The proper response is; "that was then, this is now. Another 15% below my previous offer. Again, this is a one time deal."
Has anyone ever played Monopoly strictly accornding to the rules? The current housing bubble is EXACTLY what happens the first time people play according to the real rules. They stupidly overpay for the first few properties and are then forced to mortgage them to the bank for negative cash flow and then the smart players pay far below list price.
It is really odd that the NY realtors association hasn't released the December numbers yet.
ReplyDeleteFor the stock watches out there, Toll brothers hit a new 52 week low this afternoon.
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Northern NJ Real Estate Bubble
"The Church Estate in Montauk temporarily dropped its price a few months ago to $45 million and now is back up to its original $50 million price tag."
ReplyDeletePoint well taken about this not being the "real" real estate market that most ordinary folks participate in. This is more like "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous." I wonder why whomever is selling the Church estate would temporarily drop the price down to $45 million, then crank it back up to $50 million, other than to send out a message that they think they are personally worth every penny of the asking price...?
Robert Coté knows the truth. The asking prices for many places are still high, so the perception of the average person is that the market is still expensive.
ReplyDeleteAs for the $50 million and $70 million places, they will probably be for sale for many, many more years (unless they drop the price significantly).
slightly OT...
ReplyDeletethe new inventory trackers are out today...some significant increases over last month, if you check most of the cities.
http://www.benengebreth.org/housingtracker/
nick818 said
ReplyDelete"'Ben Jones said...
It is really odd that the NY realtors association hasn't released the December numbers yet.'
They probably had to go out and hire professionals spinners, thus the added time needed to report."
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No doubt they are looking to hire Mr. Lereah (NAR) and Ms. Appleton-Young (CAR).