Thursday, January 26, 2006

Will San Diego 'Bust' With the Housing Bubble?

Rich Toscano has this editorial today. "San Diego, it is widely understood, experienced a housing boom in the late 1980s and a commensurate bust in the early 1990s. But despite the fact that the 'boom' phase of the 1980s has been absolutely dwarfed in every respect by San Diego's current housing run-up, we are often assured by those in the business that there is no 'bust' forthcoming." "Now, the conventional wisdom goes, things are entirely different. San Diego's robust and diverse economy is no longer dependent on any single industry for its continuing health. But San Diego's economy is still overly dependent on a single, vulnerable industry. It's just no longer aerospace or defense. It is the real estate industry itself." "Since 2000, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, San Diego employment outside of the real estate and construction sectors has annualized out to just 1 percent per year. Employment in the real estate and construction industries, meanwhile, grew at almost 6 percent per year. Forty percent of all new jobs in the past 3 years were in either real estate or construction. This calculation doesn't even include the explosive mortgage industry." "The real estate boom has aided San Diego's economy through more than just direct employment. It turns out that for the past few years, San Diego's per capita income has been declining against the local Consumer Price Index. How are people paying for their new BMWs and Fashion Valley spending jags? The answer is that the money came from people's homes." "Home sales volume declined by 9 percent between 2004 and 2005, a trend that appears to be getting more pronounced as time goes on. Housing-related employment surged while home sales were increasing. There is no reason to expect that the reverse will not take place if home sales continue to decline." "There are 115,000 San Diegans employed in the real estate and construction industries. Even the bullish housing analysts acknowledge that San Diego home prices are likely to flatten out for a while. But a flattening of home prices represents an economic threat as well. If people run out of home equity to extract, the wealth effect-related stimulus that San Diego has enjoyed for the past several years will disappear." "The standard contention is that San Diego's economy will keep the real estate market strong. This argument is circular, as it is the only real estate market that has kept our economy so apparently strong. San Diego may have weaned itself from the defense industry, but it has only replaced over-reliance on one vulnerable sector with over-reliance on another."

9 comments:

  1. This has nothing to do with the last post, but I believe I have just discovered the ultimate proof of a real estate bubble:

    http://tinyurl.com/alsww

    LOL

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  2. For those that don't know, Mr. Toscano publishes the 'San Diego Real Estate Chrono-Collapsometer' site that can be found in the links section of this blog. Here is the graph that was in this editorial.

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  3. He has it ALL WRONG!!!!

    It is all this "TALK" about a bubble that is causing things to slow down.

    If the media wasn't so "negative against real estate the past 6 months" then things would have been fine.

    It's all you 'bubble-heads' fault!!!!

    :) GOTCHA!

    I heard all of the above yesterday...either written or said by a realtor.

    SoCalMtgGuy

    Another F@CKED Borrower

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  5. re: http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/hotproperty

    This 10-12 year cycle is exactly what I heard and lived by 12 years ago! I heard it from a CPA who worked for Leventhal firm (sp?). This of course would have been a little flawed the last few years but I think that is driven more by panic buying rather than fundamentals. I personally feel it will be "safe" to buy in a few years after this dust settles.

    As for the many discussions about appraisers and who they work for....technically it is the MBS market via the bank....and like I've state before, if the bank was the entity actually holding the bag at the end (instead of selling it on the open market) then I'm sure the appraisers would be a lot more honest. But now, the theory is, awe heck, what is another 5-10% on the value, it will get there eventually and the buyer will pay.

    I'm shocked to see that a low 600 score can buy houses, especially at the 90+ ltv range. In 1996 when I had a 680 I had a tough time doing the same even though I met all the ratios. Now it would be a piece with that to go no down, io??

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  6. One thing I found out about the 1930's is that real estate started to seriously dive about two years after the stock market did, and it probably wasn't until the 1940's that property values stabilized and started to recover. Homes even in some well-to-do areas eventually lost close to 90% of their value. (I'll try and dig up a source of info.)

    For those with surviving businesses, they often moved into a place above the garage (or kitchen, or shop or whatever) to save on rent. Families occasionally doubled up, again to save on rent.

    Some of the newer bubbleminiums in my neighborhood could easily accommodate doubled-up families.

    Loss of income would probably have the most severe and quickest impact on real estate. I am keeping my eyes on employment statistics accordingly.

    Beartopia
    South Bay Beach Housing Bubble

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  7. Anybody watch the Buick Open from Torey? Gary McCord's in trouble for not fawning over San Diego's "perfect" weather.

    He was commenting on the up-coming June, 2008 US Open to be held at Tory Pines. He mentioned the June gloom and stated, correctly, that day-time temperatures would be in the 50's. That's right, the 50's!

    Everyone always assumes that it's always Beach Blanket Bingo weather, but having lived there almost 30 years, if you don't have a jacket for the summer nights, you'll freeze!

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  8. (But San Diego's economy is still overly dependent on a single, vulnerable industry. It's just no longer aerospace or defense.

    It is the real estate industry itself.)

    give this person an award!

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  9. I remember one day back in 2003, looking around while driving on the freeway. At that moment, I was surrounded by BMWs and Mercedes. Granted, San Diego has some extremely wealthy citizens, but when did so many others suddenly strike it rich? I'd heard of many people trading up to posher houses and even more expensive mortgages. I couldn't understand where the money to pay for it all was coming from until months later when a friend mentioned taking out a home equity loan to roll a large debt and a new car into her mortgage.

    Getstucco, I was driving down SR 56 earlier today. The amount of land being primed and made ready for even more McMansions is almost as sickening as the thought of all the debt that is floating the finished developments (and requisite luxury vehicles in the garages.)

    Even if it's just the housing ATM spending that dries up, let alone the declining RE market, San Diego is in for rough times ahead. Soft landing? Yeah right.

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