Monday, January 23, 2006

Phoenix 'Dealbusters' Include 'Dump And Run'

The Arizona Daily Sun hasthis report on Flagstaff's housing bubble. "The number of for-sale housing units brought onto the market in the city of Flagstaff last year was up substantially from 2004. But the extra supply still didn't keep pace with demand, as costs here skyrocketed. In total, 634 new housing units were built in 2005. The only year in the past five that topped that number was 2003, when 733 units were built." "That year, the median housing price was $212,000 and the median family income was about $51,800. In 2005, the median house price hit $300,000 but the median income hasn't increased significantly since 2003." "Some other factors that played into this year's market boost included...increased traffic from second-home buyers, which has grown to about 25 percent since 2000, and Flagstaff's ever dwindling land supply." And the Arizona Republic had this, "Rising prices, government bottlenecks and construction delays didn't stop the market from racking up 63,570 permits for new homes, about 4.4 percent more than the 2004 record, analyst RL Brown said. Brown made his remarks at a market forecast Monday that drew more than 1,000 builders, developers, land brokers, bankers and government officials to a north Phoenix resort." "Housing forecasts are drawing particular attention these days as the Phoenix market cools and the players look for consensus on what happens next. Predictions at another recent housing forum said that from 35,000 to 45,000 homes would be built in the Valley this year, a much steeper decline than the one Brown foresees and one that could damage a local economy that relies on housing as its top industry." "Brown said the median price for a new home in the Valley rose $98,000 to $299,000 in 2005, increases he said would not be sustainable. Brown said, an acre of land that cost $7,000 to $8,000 rose at the beginning of last year sold for $80,000 at the end of the year. Still, he said, builders' margins were running 20 to 25 percent in the Valley, a record for the area." "Brown cast some skepticism on the city's growing condominium craze. He said some apartment buildings that are being converted to condos have little chance of selling well and predicted that 15 to 20 percent of the announced 'vertical' or high-rise condo projects will be built. 'Condos will not become the dominant lifestyle choice for consumer in this marketplace,' Brown said." "He expects that the shakeout of speculators in the resale market will continue. Among Brown's big worries, or 'dealbusters' that could derail the market..a mass exodus or 'dump and run' by housing investors."

15 comments:

  1. 'Flagstaff's ever dwindling land supply'

    Yes, this is the same paper that reported that Flagstaff is 'landlocked', even though there is buildable land in every direction.

    'Brown cast some skepticism on the city's growing condominium craze. He said some apartment buildings that are being converted to condos have little chance of selling well and predicted that 15 to 20 percent of the announced 'vertical' or high-rise condo projects will be built.'

    This is the first time cancellation of some valley condo projects has come up, and by a true-blue RE cheerleader, too!

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  2. (Brown said, an acre of land that cost $7,000 to $8,000 rose at the beginning of last year sold for $80,000 at the end of the year.)

    WOW!

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  3. (Among Brown's big worries, or "dealbusters" that could derail the market: terrorism, further erosion in affordability, interest rates above 8.5 percent, a mass exodus or "dump and run" by housing investors, and growing transportation snags.)

    my god, that's this blog in a nutshell.

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  4. Ben,

    I don't know *what* you're talking about. The Arizona Republic has *always* been skeptical of the RE boom. (*ahem*) Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain --nothing to see here, move along now...

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  5. Chip,
    The headline for the Sunday paper in Flag was about the conversion of 14% of the towns' apartments into condos. They are plunging over the cliff there. And the story talked about wages not going up since 2003. I bet the wages in Flagstaff haven't risen above inflation since 1993.

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  6. Yes, there is a view. The San Francisco peaks; a dormant set of volcanos that top out around 11,000 feet. But there are plenty of old loft style places downtown that are reasonably priced. No need for condos at all.

    Everybody says Flagstaff is an hour from the GC, but it's more like 1.5 to 2.

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  7. rentininnj,

    'even in areas with..limited land'

    The state has 275 square miles held back for sale within 35 miles of dowtown Phoenix. No shortage of land anywhere in AZ.

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  8. Speaking of pump and dump, SUF hurt many people today. Good thing I've been cautious of all emerging technology stocks, otherwise I like the company's goal.

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  9. Ben,

    I hesitated to ask, but now that the stories are appearing in your neck of the woods, how will you be reacting, if at all?

    And will we be seeing condo towers in Flagstaff? :-)

    (Just kidding. Been there.)

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  10. Lou,

    I am going to start watching defaults. There will be many.

    A comparison of the two big tracking sites is forthcoming on my foreclosure blog.

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  11. I was only in Flagstaff once, but it was one of the most beautiful areas I've seen. I hate to think of it overbuilt with condos.
    As to Centrex homes and their "discount".. notice one of their models is called Askew?? I'll bet they don't.
    According to Websters it means Awry...in a crooked position...with disapproval, scorn, contempt, etc.; disdainfully: They looked askew at the painting.

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  12. pacnorwester,

    Good points there. Too bad to hear that about Strawberry and Payson. We are just a few days from hitting the record for low rainfall in AZ. Flagstaff has only had a couple of inches of snow all winter.

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  13. Regarding land around Flagstaff...much is Forest Service, BLM, and Navajo Reservation.
    Regarding water in Arizona. Salt River Project, the entity regulating water use in much of Arizona is sueing the pants of metro downstream users of the two main rivers in Arizona...the Salt and the Verde. These lawsuits will have a SIGNIFICANT impact on the rampant growth in AZ...and, expect water rationing in the next year. There is MAJOR shock coming to builders who fa la la about building in AZ

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  14. Catherine,

    Most of Arizona is in the states hands, but they trade, sell and deal it off all the time. The city of Flagstaff just approved a 1,000 home project that will require over $100 million in roads to connect. Around the Rimrock area, subdivisions were just approved over local protest. This in spite of a growing surplus on the market and a glut of rentals. Everybody is getting greedy at a bad time.

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