Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
Sunday, January 29, 2006
'Nobody Knows' If There Will Be Panic Selling: CA
Reports from California show the precarious nature of that states' housing bubble. "It's unclear what lies ahead for housing, which is a state of flux. Residential permits statewide were down 2.7 percent last year. In San Diego County, permit activity dropped 12.2 percent. Among the bigger cities in the county, San Diego and Oceanside were off more than 6 percent. Chula Vista was down 51.1 percent."
"University of San Diego economist Alan Gin predicted that fewer homes permitted in the state means that the 6.8 percent increase in California construction jobs last year will not be equaled. 'That's a worry,' he said. 'Construction has been a big job producer. We added 7,200 (San Diego construction) jobs in 2004 and probably over 5,000 in 2005.' A bigger jobs hit is probably among real estate agents, mortgage brokers and other workers in housing services, he said: 'I think there will be a shakeout in that industry.'"
"UCSD economist Ross Starr said the wild card in the local housing market is the financial health of recent home buyers who took out adjustable-rate mortgages with monthly payments set to rise substantially. 'The question is will there be some panic selling by buyers who bought during 2002-2003 and can't afford to hold on,' Starr said. 'The answer is nobody really knows the answer to that question.'"
"The December median home sales price in the Coachella Valley was $390,000, down slightly from the record $400,000 posted in November. Experts say the valley is in no immediate danger of dealing with a foreclosure crisis, as local prices continue to appreciate even as unsold resale inventory rises."
"Buyers have relied increasingly on nontraditional loans to be able to buy into the local market amid plunging affordability. The loans have helped many, including investors like Danielle Galland of Desert Hot Springs. She bought a home in that city recently with an interest-only loan with payments scheduled to jump in two years. 'The payments are scheduled to go up in two years, but I plan to sell before then,' she said."
"One red flag is that the valley's notices of default, sent by lending institutions when payments are overdue, totaled 816 in 2005. That was up 29 percent from the 632 notices seen in 2004, and reversed a three-year trend of declines."
"Longtime valley banker William Powers said while his bank does not offer them, many valley buyers have been able to save on their monthly payments initially by opting for non-traditional loan packages. The upside is that it allowed many more people to purchase homes than would otherwise have been possible. The downside is that when their introductory rates convert to adjustable, some will find that they really weren't able to afford their properties long term."
"The reason: They've already spent their monthly-payment savings on other items, like cars, big-screen TVs and upscale furnishings. If those owners find themselves with default or foreclosure notices, and home values aren't rising as they are today, some may unload their homes at a loss or below-market value to pay off their loans. That could put a drag on the selling prices of non-distressed homes in the same neighborhoods."
"'As a homeowner, that wouldn't make me very happy,' Powers said."
"As an indicator of what could be at stake nationally, there is currently between $1.5 trillion and $2 trillion tied up in what are known as interest-only loans. Currently, interest-only loans are more popular in the inland Riverside-San Bernardino metro area, which includes the valley, than in California and the nation. 39.3 percent of all inland home loans were interest-only in 2005, up from just 3.7 percent in 2000."
"The California percentage was 34.3 (up from 1.4 percent). The national percentage was 24 percent (up from 1.1 percent). According to recent figures from the California Association of Realtors, only 10 percent of valley households can afford to purchase the median-priced valley home based on working income."
"'Our house is almost paid off, and we’re on a fixed-rate loan. We want to sell the house eventually and retire, but where? Not in California,' said Colleen Bliss, (a) Calimesa resident visiting Palm Springs."
"The December median home sales price in the Coachella Valley was $390,000, down slightly from the record $400,000 posted in November. Experts say the valley is in no immediate danger of dealing with a foreclosure crisis, as local prices continue to appreciate even as unsold resale inventory rises."
ReplyDeleteAhem-- I see a 10K price decline, not appreciation.
@bottomfisherman,
ReplyDeleteNo, no, no --that's not a price decline, merely retrograde appreciation. Perfectly normal for this time of year.
Repeat after me: "There are no American tanks in Baghdad." Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Nothing to see here, folks, move along...
"...will there be some panic selling by buyers who bought during 2002-2003 and can't afford to hold on"?
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell is wrong with these "experts?" They cannot sell at all. The BK laws are going to say "you can either stay in your house and make the payments or you can lose your house and make the payments." I at one time entertained the idea of white knight. Sign this note and rent the house from me and I'll take over the ownership. It just doesn't work, not even close. The note and rent are more than they pay now. Somebody is going to have to take a huge write down and it cannot be the borrower. Anyone who can walk away will. The banks are reluctanly back in the Real Estate business at the same time new tight restrictions keep them in the Real estate business. There won't be any way any bank in the world that is going to find itself owning 807 Elm St who still write a loan on 809 Elm St to let the neighbor get out before them. There's going to be a rush for the exits and then there's going to be a bar across the door.
the valley is in no immediate danger of dealing with a foreclosure crisis, as local prices continue to appreciate even as unsold resale inventory rises
ReplyDeleteIs it my imagination, or does this translate to "you can list your house for the same high prices as last month, but it's just going to sit there, unsold"?
If so, that won't help people facing foreclosure. They need to sell fast.
Wouldn't drops in prices lag behind the rise in inventory, anyway? Aren't the "sales" for a given month the closings, not the original contract date? If so, sale prices for December would reflect decisions to purchase made in November or even October... while inventory would be what's on the market now. So a market flooded with inventory would be expected to show lower sale prices 2-3 months later, at soonest.
SBG,
ReplyDeleteYeah, the new home sales on Friday showed a YOY decline from December 2004.
The NAR will not say that the New Homes YOY median decline has anything to do with falling prices.
ReplyDeleteThey'll argue that builders' product mix has shifted towards providing more affordable housing, thus the decline in median. It doesn't mean prices fell, it means builders are selling more affordable homes.
The NAR spin doctors are professionals, don't underestimate them.
grim
Regional analysts say that the (Coachella) valley is currently experiencing a "soft landing" in home prices and has several bubble-proofing elements.
ReplyDeletePatrick Veling, an analyst with Brea-based Real Data Strategies, notes that those include:
Continued demand for local homes among retirees inside and outside the valley.
The fact that most owners sell their homes because they want to - not because they have to.
An overall supply of homes in the state that continues to lag demand.
The valley remains a seller's market, although it is nearing equilibrium as local unsold inventory rises.
Great! I finally found a "bubble-proof" area. I think I will buy 10 condos there next week! lol
Panic selling? Don't know about that, yet.
ReplyDeleteBut I would guess I'm starting to see "panic renting."
The signs are starting to show up in the windows of some of the new condo projects in the East Bay near where I work.
I wonder who did buy those ~$600K+ (listed), ~1000 s.f. shoeboxes, a block from where the hookers hang out at night?
Surely not anyone who would want to live in them, right?
ocmax said:
ReplyDelete"Taken in the context of the other things we already know, it is a meaningful and telling snippet of information."
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Yes. Agree.
Watching the psychology "come around" is _something_, isn't it?
Last, but not least - as they say.
[could I come up with any more cliches? let's hope not]
no, i have never been to Palo Alto, but I do know that most of the professors at the university near me live in 'university subsidized' housing.
ReplyDeletedo Palo Alto professors make big bucks?
(don't get me wrong here, i wish professors and teachers were much higher paid, my point was that most academics don't have a clue when it comes to investment strategies).
Academic employment is split between practical folks and the idealists/dreamers. The practical folks do employable stuff like hard science (bio, chemistry, physics), computer science, economics, and cognitive psychology.
The idealists study literature, history, art, music, sociology and the like.
In a university they'll *all* make roughly $40,000 to $45,000 starting out (with 20+ years of school), average 50K to 65K, and top out around 100K with seniority and worldwide recognition. The practical sorts could make 50% to 100% more in private industry, while the idealists may not find any non-academic employment at all. Some types of PhDs can literally be worthless.
I know we've all been waiting impatiently for every stage of the inevitable bust, but it's truly fascinating how quickly it is happening. Guess that's why we're all so addicted to this blog.
ReplyDeletesfbayqt: I assume you are a girl. I wish there were more girls like you. The last couple times I tried to flirt with girls turned into disaster. Somehow after a few hours, it became an RE argument. They are still so blinded by Realtors' words.
ReplyDeleteLooks like I won't be getting dates until the general public acknowledges price declines.
Irvine 2007: I am pretty heavy against USD. Most of my money is in foreign currency (mostly foreign CDs), Canadian energy, and metals. I still do keep some greenback around to hedge against myself. :)
ReplyDeleteI wish I was more patroitic, but what's more American than being a capitalist?